system restore

Does System restore work ey?
Start, run c:\windows\system32\rstrui.exe
thanks

David Sherman wrote:

Does System restore work ey?
Start, run c:\windows\system32\rstrui.exe
thanks

Yes, it does. I did one in Safe Mode after installing a bad driver and it worked perfectly. I find the placement of the option to create a restore point a little odd (in the System applet instead of Backup & Restore), but it worked just fine.
Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

It doesn't open up for me in normal mode.
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:22:23 -0700, Malke wrote:

David Sherman wrote:
Does System restore work ey?
Start, run c:\windows\system32\rstrui.exe
thanks
Yes, it does. I did one in Safe Mode after installing a bad driver and it worked perfectly. I find the placement of the option to create a restore point a little odd (in the System applet instead of Backup & Restore), but it worked just fine.
Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

David Sherman wrote:

It doesn't open up for me in normal mode.
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:22:23 -0700, Malke <notreally@invalid.invalid wrote:
David Sherman wrote:
Does System restore work ey?
Start, run c:\windows\system32\rstrui.exe
thanks
Yes, it does. I did one in Safe Mode after installing a bad driver and it worked perfectly. I find the placement of the option to create a restore point a little odd (in the System applet instead of Backup & Restore), but it worked just fine.

I guess it depends on your build. Because I'm a beta tester, I'm on 5365 now. There is even a nice feature in the System Configuration Utility (msconfig) called "Tools" that let's you run various proggies like rstrui.exe from it directly. Maybe this was in earlier builds but I found them so annoying I didn't keep them on long enough to notice.
You've also apparently been having some problems with your Vista install based on other posts you've made. If you are already on the latest build, maybe you should do another clean install. It *is* beta and beta means lots of wipes/installs.
Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Safe mode fails for me.
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:22:23 -0700, Malke wrote:

David Sherman wrote:
Does System restore work ey?
Start, run c:\windows\system32\rstrui.exe
thanks
Yes, it does. I did one in Safe Mode after installing a bad driver and it worked perfectly. I find the placement of the option to create a restore point a little odd (in the System applet instead of Backup & Restore), but it worked just fine.
Malke

It doesn't work but the tools tab is a cool tip to know.
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:44:37 -0700, Malke wrote:

David Sherman wrote:
It doesn't open up for me in normal mode.
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:22:23 -0700, Malke <notreally@invalid.invalid wrote:
David Sherman wrote:
Does System restore work ey?
Start, run c:\windows\system32\rstrui.exe
thanks
Yes, it does. I did one in Safe Mode after installing a bad driver and it worked perfectly. I find the placement of the option to create a restore point a little odd (in the System applet instead of Backup & Restore), but it worked just fine.
I guess it depends on your build. Because I'm a beta tester, I'm on 5365 now. There is even a nice feature in the System Configuration Utility (msconfig) called "Tools" that let's you run various proggies like rstrui.exe from it directly. Maybe this was in earlier builds but I found them so annoying I didn't keep them on long enough to notice.
You've also apparently been having some problems with your Vista install based on other posts you've made. If you are already on the latest build, maybe you should do another clean install. It *is* beta and beta means lots of wipes/installs.
Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

"Charlie Tame" wrote in message

Michael Palumbo wrote:
"Charlie Tame" wrote in message Michael Palumbo wrote:
"Taibear ios" wrote in message even the box was crap..
Yes even the box was a horrid design! Just like vista..you CAN judge an OS by its cover :-)
Nice looks, sure it looked great, but to open it, its like a rubrics cube puzzle...! LOL
Just like Vista, usability is ZERO!
I have had many people call me just to ask how to open the darn thing!
One guy broke it out of frustration to get the disk out!

He BROKE it?
Couldn't figure out a simple box . . . amazing . . . it took me all of a few seconds to see the HINGE on the bottom right of the box, and the FINGER GRIPS near the rounded corner on the top right . . . "gee, let's see what happens when I pull . . . AH!" Box open.
But then again, I figured out the Rubik's Cube when I was 9 and can still solve it in under a minute and a half (slow compared to many) so I guess I had an advantage . . .
Oh, and before I get labeled an "MS FAN BOY", I've been running Linux (and Unix before Linux) on computers long before many people that purport to be "Linux Gurus" even heard of Linux . . . and prefer Linux . . . I have to run Vista (and other versions of Windows) because I'm a tech and need to actually use the products I have to support.
Mic
Ah, but did you ever write printer drivers in Z80 assembler, or extensions for Commodore 64 ROM Basic in assembler.
Darned kids :)
Yeah, "Kid" . . .
Yes, I had a Vic 20 and a "Commie" 64 many moons ago. Also an Atari 800 (that Atari Assembler was a bitch) because I wanted to design video games.
Didn't pan out, I lost interest in programming and found other things that interested me more at the time, but I never was without a computer of some type for the past 25+ years.
Mic
Hmm, the Atari was 68000 wasn't it? I tried to learn C with the Amiga but never could figure out where I was going with that, so went back to assembler but I guess when Tramiel messed up Commodore and the Amiga went belly up was around the same time I started doing "Business" stuff and wound up doing Database stuff only. Boring but paid the bills for a while.

I'm going WAY back, before Tremiel left Commodore and bought Atari. The Atari 400 and 800 were the original Atari home computers. The 400 had a horrible 'membrane' keyboard that was CTS waiting to happen, the 800 had a real keyboard, two cartridge slots. A few "joystick" ports (actually, com-ports), a serial bus that was suspiciously similar to the modern-day Universal Serial Bus and a whopping 48K of user available memory. When the Atari 800 was introduced they didn't include memory used by the "OS" in the reported RAM. It was actually 64K with Atari Basic taking up the rest when you started the thing with no cart(s) inserted.
http://www.atarimuseum.com/computers/computers.html
Mic

Actually RobDee, my hardware is getting to 20 months old (from the date it was purchased). The actuall design age of some components may be even older than that.
I include the spec in my sig to prove a point. Vista DOES run without problems on older hardware.
-- dzomlija
____________________________________ Peter Alexander Dzomlija Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as you die, so shall I be Reborn... - ASUS A8N32-SLi-Deluxe - AMD Atlon 64 Dual-Core 4800+ - 4GB DDR400 - ASUS nVidia 6600 - Thermaltake Tai-Chi Watercooled Chassis - 1207GB Total Formatted Storage - Vista Ultimate x64 - CodeGear Delphi 2007

Instead of looking after the intrusion, put a password on your account. Saves wasting everyone's time, doesn't it?
"Ali" wrote:

Anyone know of a way to see if someone has accessed my PC when I wasn't there?
For example, if there a log file somewhere that shows the date and time that the computer was last booted up?

Right-click on the IE icon located on the Quick Launch toolbar, select "Run as administrator", then attempt to install.
-- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
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"Joe K" wrote in message I have a 3rd party ActiveX control I distribute with my software that fails to install on Windows Vista. When I install it from the browser, it prompts me to install, appears to have been successful, but the install fails silently. Using the MS ActiveX log utility, I can see it fails with an error: "Code Download Error: (hr = 80004005) Unspecified error".
If I manually copy this ActiveX to the target system and run regsvr32 on the cab file, it gives me an error telling me the control "may not be compatible with the version of Windows that you're running." If I extract the unsigned OCX (the cab is signed; OCX is not) and run regsvr32.exe on this OCX, it installs and runs fine.
This cab is distributed by a vendor and works on all other platforms. Oddly enough, it only fails on SOME Vista systems.
I tried all the usual Vista tricks (added to secure zone, lowered security in secure zone, changed Advanced IE settings related to certificates, tried the ActiveX installer service, and disabled User Account Control).
Anyone have any pointers?
Frank

Here are the instructions on how to run System Restore. The worst that will happen is it will fail to restore.
All About System Restore in WinXP http://bertk.mvps.org/
Here are some troubleshooting steps to take when System Restore fails to restore: http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srfail.html
Regards, Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User http://bertk.mvps.org Member: http://dts-l.org
andy wrote:

BERT- it was POGO.COM off the internet What if the system restore fails like it has done with other people...? Please advise before I screw up my computer...
Thanks Andy
"Bert Kinney" wrote:
What was the name of the game?
Now use System Restore and restore the computer to just before the game was installed.
Regards, Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User http://bertk.mvps.org Member: http://dts-l.org
andy wrote: Bert- I did the UNINSTALL from the add/remove section under the control panel..While it DID take it out of the Add/remove area , it is STILL on the desktop and still works when I click on it. This is from pogo.com and I cannot get rid of it...I was told to do a system restore by someone on this site but I do not want to screw up my computer anymore than it already is..I get a blinking screen that goes BLACK, then desktop, then Black again, then desk finaly loads.
I have no idea how to fix this............ Any help will be greatly appreciated. and by the way, my clock is set correctly..If THAT means anything? Andy
"Bert Kinney" wrote:
Hi,
System Restore was never intended to be used to uninstall applications, and should not be used to do so.
Undo the restore and uninstall the applications via Programs and Features in Control Panel.
Regards, Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User http://bertk.mvps.org Member: http://dts-l.org
maeve wrote: Hi, I have used system restore and because I removed programs before I did this the programs they still show as being installed. How do I remove them from my program uninstall? Thanks

"DMD31842" wrote in message

I am told I need to install various drivers once I upgrade to Vista from XP on my Dell Dimension desktop. If I do a clean install rather than an upgrade, do I still need to install drivers? Thanks

Yes. Download them before you start and put them on a usb key or a cd or similar so you have them to hand. Check to see if any of the drivers are for your hard disk controller as they may need special treatment if they need to be installed while vista is installing. The readme from dell is a good place to start.

"r g traweek" <r g traweek@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

i'm getting a partial download.the label layout is missing. have uninstalled and reinstalled numerous times.vendor says my problem is unique.have tried all their suggestions . can someone help. i am an amateur.

You might get a faster answer if you tell us which label maker program.

I wouldn't have expected SP1 to resolve any of them.
(1) is an issue with Happauge. That card isn't supported in Vista by them. If the manufacturer doesn't, don't expect Microsoft to.
(2) is a file association issue, try running a repair of your MS Office product.
(3) Could be corrupt dx files, or a video driver issue. Again, this isn't what the SP is about. Run sfc scannow from an elevated command prompt and install the most recent distribution of your video card drivers that are certified for Vista.
If any of these appeared after installing SP1 beta, file a bug report on connect and then remove the beta if you do not want to deal with the issues.
-- Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
"goorambatman" wrote in message

I've installed Vista SP1 Beta (on Windows Vista Home Premium), It hasn't resolved the following 3 issues:
1. Windows Media Center fails to find my TV card (Hauppauge PVR 150), Media Center Receiver Service stops working.
Product Windows Media Center Receiver Service
Problem Stopped working
Date 21/10/2007 9:07 AM
Status Report Sent
Problem signature Problem Event Name: BEX Application Name: ehRecvr.exe Application Version: 6.0.6001.16659 Application Timestamp: 46edd087 Fault Module Name: StackHash_2901 Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000 Exception Offset: 021e30f0 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Data: 00000008 OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3 Locale ID: 3081 Additional Information 1: 2901 Additional Information 2: 768a8da07e0b0e302f0b4295041acb94 Additional Information 3: 814a Additional Information 4: b4e27f3beba3726c3a700f60c4152259
Extra information about the problem Bucket ID: 101681813
Product Windows Media Center Receiver Service
Problem Stopped working
Date 21/10/2007 9:07 AM
Status Report Sent
Problem signature Problem Event Name: BEX Application Name: ehRecvr.exe Application Version: 6.0.6001.16659 Application Timestamp: 46edd087 Fault Module Name: StackHash_2901 Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000 Exception Offset: 021c30f0 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Data: 00000008 OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3 Locale ID: 3081 Additional Information 1: 2901 Additional Information 2: 768a8da07e0b0e302f0b4295041acb94 Additional Information 3: 814a Additional Information 4: b4e27f3beba3726c3a700f60c4152259
Extra information about the problem Bucket ID: 101682251
Product Windows Media Center Receiver Service
Problem Stopped working
Date 21/10/2007 9:08 AM
Status Report Sent
Problem signature Problem Event Name: BEX Application Name: ehRecvr.exe Application Version: 6.0.6001.16659 Application Timestamp: 46edd087 Fault Module Name: StackHash_2901 Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000 Exception Offset: 01ff30f0 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Data: 00000008 OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3 Locale ID: 3081 Additional Information 1: 2901 Additional Information 2: 768a8da07e0b0e302f0b4295041acb94 Additional Information 3: 814a Additional Information 4: b4e27f3beba3726c3a700f60c4152259
Extra information about the problem Bucket ID: 101681902
Product Windows Media Center Receiver Service
Problem Stopped working
Date 21/10/2007 9:08 AM
Status Report Sent
Problem signature Problem Event Name: BEX Application Name: ehRecvr.exe Application Version: 6.0.6001.16659 Application Timestamp: 46edd087 Fault Module Name: StackHash_2901 Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000 Exception Offset: 021980f0 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Data: 00000008 OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3 Locale ID: 3081 Additional Information 1: 2901 Additional Information 2: 768a8da07e0b0e302f0b4295041acb94 Additional Information 3: 814a Additional Information 4: b4e27f3beba3726c3a700f60c4152259
Extra information about the problem Bucket ID: 101682063
Product Windows Media Center Receiver Service
Problem Stopped working
Date 21/10/2007 9:08 AM
Status Report Sent
Problem signature Problem Event Name: BEX Application Name: ehRecvr.exe Application Version: 6.0.6001.16659 Application Timestamp: 46edd087 Fault Module Name: StackHash_2901 Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000 Exception Offset: 022230f0 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Data: 00000008 OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3 Locale ID: 3081 Additional Information 1: 2901 Additional Information 2: 768a8da07e0b0e302f0b4295041acb94 Additional Information 3: 814a Additional Information 4: b4e27f3beba3726c3a700f60c4152259
Extra information about the problem Bucket ID: 101682260


2. Microsoft Office 2003/2007 shortcuts wont open from the "recently opened programs list" in the Start menu. No response. These type of shortcuts only open from the start menu in the Office from the office folder or the Desktop.


3. DirectX Diagnostic Tools (dxdiag) stops working when dxdiag is run and attempts to access DirectShow (test dxdiag does on start of program). DxDiag says “DxDiag has detected that there may have been a problem accessing DirectShow the last time this program was used. Would you like to bypass DirectShow this time?” If I click ‘Yes’ DxDiag appears to run normally. If I click ‘No’ DirectX Diagnostic Tool crashes.
Product Microsoft DirectX Diagnostic Tool
Problem Stopped working
Date 21/10/2007 9:26 AM
Status Report Sent
Problem signature Problem Event Name: BEX Application Name: dxdiag.exe Application Version: 6.0.6001.16659 Application Timestamp: 46edcfc4 Fault Module Name: StackHash_fd00 Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000 Exception Offset: 03ade0f0 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Data: 00000008 OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3 Locale ID: 3081 Additional Information 1: fd00 Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160 Additional Information 3: fd00 Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
Extra information about the problem Bucket ID: 101687336
Can any one help resolve any of these issues?

Thanks John! I love free software. I will download it and give it a try.
"John Inzer" wrote:

hnortman wrote: I am trying to place a photo (jpeg file) in a wordpad document. (I have Windows Vista.) I am embedding it as an object, but I can't get the photo to show or on the screen without clicking on the icon. More importantly, I can't get the document to print and show the photo. Is this possible in WordPad, or do I need a some real software? :) ==================== Maybe the following free download would be worth a try:
OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/
--
John Inzer MS Picture It! - Digital Image MVP
Digital Image Highlights and FAQs http://tinyurl.com/aczzp
Notice This is not tech support I am a volunteer
Solutions that work for me may not work for you
Proceed at your own risk

Thanks to you all for your help. I didn't get a chance to try restoring through safe mode, although at least I know how to do it should I need to. My PC was under warranty, so I'd been talking to their tech support (this forum was much more useful!), and when they couldn't diagnose or fix it over the phone they sent a nice man out. It was a corruption of Vista that was the problem so he ran an F10 recovery. Possibly a severe remedy, and it's taken me the best part of all day to reload my other software and files, but it's working better than before (possibly as it's a clean install, not full of manufacturer's helpful extra software...). Thanks again for everything. Bernie
"gregrocker" wrote:

restart computer, repeatedly tap F8 key at boot up, you will be diverted to Safe Mode menu, select "Safe Mode," and do your System Restore from there. Restart to return to normal mode.
"Bernie" wrote:
I'm being very literal here - I typed in the comment, the dialog box went away, and nothing came up.
I am a little slow when it comes to the more advanced stuff - can you guide my through starting rstrui in safe mode ?
thanks, B
"Bob" wrote:
Bernie, I don't know what you mean by "nothing has happened". Were you able to run sfc \scannow?
Have you tried to run SR in safe mode?
"Bernie" wrote in message Hi Bob,
Thanks for the reply.
I've tried it, nothing has happened. Any advice ?
Bernie
"Bob" wrote:
Run sfc \scannow
"Bernie" wrote in message Hi, I ran an update to my firewall today that's caused a bunch of problems (it failed, and deleted/corrupted a few bits on the way, to the extent my network connection is dead). I want to do a system restore to "undo" this. BUT the restore is failing ("unspecified error" - always a helpful description). I've caught a noticed appearing out of the task bar that suggests rstrui.exe is corrupted. How can I replace/update this file, bearing in mind this PC no longer has a network connection (and therefore no access to the internet) ? Many thanks in advance,
Bernie

system restore keeps losing it's restore points from day to day.

If you are dual-booting with Xp, this is going to happen. It has something to do with "volsnap.sys." Colin can eplain it much better than I.
To work around this, do one of two things:
1. Enable BitLocker in Vista. (Courtesy of MICHAEL) This way, XP can't read the disc and therefore can't delete the SR points. 2. Use a third-party boot manager such as BootMagic and hide the O/S's from each other (my preferred way.
Or, I guess, 3. just live with it...
This has been discussed on the forum if you wish to do some more research. Just search the forum for volsnap.sys and you will ind it.
"Kue2" wrote in message

system restore keeps losing it's restore points from day to day.

It will if you are frequently booting into XP as well as Vista. There is an incompatibility between the Volume Shadowcopy Services of the two systems such that VSS in XP thinks the system restore points in Vista are corrupt. It deletes them thinking to protect the user. It will not be fixed. The problem is not with System Restore, but with the VSS driver used by System Restore to take the snapshots SR uses to create the restore points. Disabling the XP SR will make no difference.
"Kue2" wrote in message

system restore keeps losing it's restore points from day to day.

Not only will this happen when "booting" into XP from Vista but I often simply shortcut from one desktop to the other on a dual boot by typing C:\Documents and Settings\Kue2's XP Profile" in run or in a combo address bar run box in the taskbar (rt. click taskbar>toolbars>address>unlocked taskbar>drag seam to left. It does this even if you access the XP desktop via a shortcut. It's one of many things they can't or won't fix.
After looking at the VSS pitch and hype from SR PM Eduardo Laureano "oh gee golly it's way cooler" in typical Redmonese cheerleader mode like the Product Guide (deeper, more systemic ect.), I find System Restore no better--but worse in Vista than in XP. So are many others. The big hype was it's more powerful and it can be run via Win RE outside of Windows, in no boot situations and in XP it can be run from 3 different flavors of safe mode, from anecdotal reports, it isn't working much and many people are finding that SR in Vista is *failing to make points at the default times it is supposed to* putting the dual boot failure aside.
Microsoft Vista team writers also have have yet to post any substantive information on System Restore or Win RE on Technet or MSDN or any other MSFT site 6 weeks after Beta 2 public release. The public and Beta testers are equally in the dark on both.
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

It will if you are frequently booting into XP as well as Vista. There is an incompatibility between the Volume Shadowcopy Services of the two systems such that VSS in XP thinks the system restore points in Vista are corrupt. It deletes them thinking to protect the user. It will not be fixed. The problem is not with System Restore, but with the VSS driver used by System Restore to take the snapshots SR uses to create the restore points. Disabling the XP SR will make no difference.
"Kue2" wrote in message system restore keeps losing it's restore points from day to day.

Chad;
I admire your diligence and your ability to gather and produce pertinent, additional information. I have certainly increased my understanding of many facets of Vista simply by clicking on some of the links you have provided.
Try one little step: enable Bitlocker in Vista, manually set a restore point and then switch between O/S's with your various methods. Then see if the points stay.
I am dual-booting on a system where I have used a boot manager to hide each O/S partition from the other and am not having any of these restore point issues.
-- Mark
Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message

Not only will this happen when "booting" into XP from Vista but I often simply shortcut from one desktop to the other on a dual boot by typing C:\Documents and Settings\Kue2's XP Profile" in run or in a combo address bar run box in the taskbar (rt. click taskbar>toolbars>address>unlocked taskbar>drag seam to left. It does this even if you access the XP desktop via a shortcut. It's one of many things they can't or won't fix.
After looking at the VSS pitch and hype from SR PM Eduardo Laureano "oh gee golly it's way cooler" in typical Redmonese cheerleader mode like the Product Guide (deeper, more systemic ect.), I find System Restore no better--but worse in Vista than in XP. So are many others. The big hype was it's more powerful and it can be run via Win RE outside of Windows, in no boot situations and in XP it can be run from 3 different flavors of safe mode, from anecdotal reports, it isn't working much and many people are finding that SR in Vista is *failing to make points at the default times it is supposed to* putting the dual boot failure aside.
Microsoft Vista team writers also have have yet to post any substantive information on System Restore or Win RE on Technet or MSDN or any other MSFT site 6 weeks after Beta 2 public release. The public and Beta testers are equally in the dark on both.
CH